• BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Whether you like it or not, the fact of the matter is that most Americans support defending those allies. This is not slimy Washington elites pillaging the common man's money to fund war; this is you being a significant outlier compared to standard American opinion.

    Which is fine, but don't go pretending anything else is happening.

    • SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      No they don't… You do and the media is engaged in a terrifying amount of manufactured consent, but the raw data from those same polls does not agree with that claim.

      Ignoring the sampling methods used, lack of transparency on filters and other methodology, clearly biased questions, etc. The latest CBS news poll on the topic lists:

      • 52% believe less weapons and supplies should be sent to Israel.

      • 76% believe more humanitarian aid should be sent to Israel.

      • 57% believe more humanitarian aid should be sent to Gaza.

      • 56% disapprove of how the situation with Russia and Ukraine is being handled. (Though there isn't much of a breakdown on the "how is it being mishandled…")

      A few things that should be explicitly pointed out as this is a bad poll, but it would appear the inherit bias is trying to agree with you, so the margin of error means the "true feelings of Americans" is even further in contradiction to your statement.

      • Note how Isreal is kept consistent without a single reference to Netanyahu/Israeli government compared to the constant switching back and forth between "Hamas" and "Palestinian people"

      • poll is 63% white, 62% of that group has "no degree", 33% aged between 45-64 (amongst 4 categories).

      So even when polling predominantly uneducated* white baby boomers who are the exact demographic that agrees the most with you, and doing the typical statistical magic the numbers still cannot be finagled in such a way as to make your statement true.

      • it should be said that "uneducated" doesn't necessarily mean 'uninformed, stupid, etc.' However, in this context it means they are deliberately polling non-experts who's primary source of information is CBS/Paramount itself (or other closely related corporations) in order to manufacture consent.
    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      How about you acknowledge that Americans want healthcare and aren't getting it because we're told it's too expensive?