• Dienervent@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Why take sides at all.

    Because they've wandered into an echo chamber and are now hyper aware of all the real bad things on side did plus a few false bad things. While all of the bad things the other side did have been downplayed or justified.

    I sadly don't know enough on the topic to say more on this. And the amount of research needed to get even an idea of "who is worse" is massive due to all the misinformation (or misleading information) on the topic everywhere.

    I do know that neither side is taking a sensible approach to the problem because right wing nutbags are in charge of both sides.

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      1 year ago

      I tried to trace it a while back. The specific conflict could be traced back to the after WW1, where the British thought they could expand their influence in the region by growing a Jewish population through Zionists.

      That begged the question though, what started the desire for a Jewish state in the first place? Why had groups committed terrorism for that cause? It was a trail of nationalism that came from a very understandable genesis. After Russian pogroms killed innocent Jewish people (just one of many persecutions across Europe), a prominent Jewish writer opined that the only way for Jews to have safety and respect was a state of their own.

      That's where I stopped, but if you continued to look, you'd end up at the Romans in Jerusalem and the Jewish Diaspora as one of the events leading here.

      The only side I can take in good faith is of the civilians.

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        1 year ago

        You mean like the civilians the Israeli government has been killing for 70+ years?

        Everyone in a position of power in Bibi's government and Hamas are assholes. Let's not pretend like this was something Hamas did out of nowhere for no reason. This is exactly the kind of shit that Bibi has been hoping to provoke his entire time in office.