• winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I wouldn't say they're a necessary evil. More like they're the last ones left after all the alternatives got killed/bulldozed.

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      1 year ago

      (They were also supported by Israel to weaken and delegitimize other Palestinian political factions)

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        1 year ago

        It’s a complicated history. Originally they were more of a charitable organization and gradually morphed into their current state. But I understand why you left that out since it wasn’t convenient for this line of reasoning/victim blaming

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          Hol up, is your argument is that Hamas was a charitable organization in 2019 when they were funding them to delegitimize the Palestinian Authority with the express purpose of sabotaging the Palestinian state?

          Because if so, that's a big fucking yikes bruh.

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              Cool story, but what does that have to do with Israel funding them in 2010s?

              I get the point you're trying to make, but I'm honestly not sure how it relates to mine. The fact they used to be a charitable organization is immaterial to Israel funding Hamas well after they became militant against Israel, and them doing it for the purpose of helping delegitimize the PA and sabotage Palestine as a state.

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                You’re shifting the discussion. This thread started with OP saying Hamas is a necessary evil 8 days after they slaughtered 1300+ civilians in cold blood and abducted 100+ more.

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                  You're shifting the discussion

                  L. O. L. What happened to the cOmPlIcAtEd HiStOrY argument you were just making while failing to refute the point that Israel supported/funded Hamas?

                  This thread started with OP saying Hamas is a necessary evil 8 days after they slaughtered 1300+ civilians in cold blood and abducted 100+ more.

                  Is that what they said? Because you're leaving out the very important end of the comment that I was specifically replying to:

                  More like they’re the last ones left after all the alternatives got killed/bulldozed.

                  And you want to accuse me of shifting the discussion?! You need to get over yourself and realize that Israel's very recent funding is absolutely and directly material to the discussion at hand.