Howdy y'all! This is my first post, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

I've been fighting to get the latest Bookworm installed over my existing Bullseye installation. I think I might need to wipe and start over 😢

My previous install was with xfce primarily, but I had installed Gnome to see what's up with Wayland. I had forgotten all about Gnome until I updated to Bookworm…

The install appeared fine at first, but much much slower loading up.

When it booted, I had no Wi-Fi. 8 figured, okay, let's get that installed the same way I did it before.

Welp, it identified as an Intel AC adapter. It's actually an a/b adapter. I checked logs, and the system couldn't load the driver. So I installed atheros-firmware (correct driver) and rebooted. Still no.

So I read and read and saw that Gnome could conflict. So I booted into Gnome.

And my heart fluttered at the huge difference. 😍 Still no Wi-Fi, but holy freaking cow was it buttery smooth! No dropped frames!! No compositor shoe horned in!

I immediately started removing XFCE4. Couldn't get very far before the system tried to remove Gnome with it.

I went through and marked each file individually for complete removal and checked the pop up for what would be removed with it to ensure gnome would be left alone.

While doing that, I also removed the atheros package.

A few reboots, and still no Wi-Fi, so I reinstalled the atheros package and rebooted.

Boom! Wi-Fi works! Awesome!!

But the computer is VERY slow booting, and the log that runs at boot still says none of the drivers are loading. Errors everywhere.

I don't know these things, but since Gnome loads eventually with everything working… it feels like Gnome is duplicating the boot scans and that's resulting in a full 6 minutes before the cursor appears (and another 2 minutes before there's anything to click on)

The laptop also has a touch screen that randomly touches itself and screws up everything. I eventually found a way to disable it, still not sure exactly what worked.

I've got a 120Gig SSD that should fit, but the current 1T HDD is real nice to have for downloads… so I would prefer to keep it if possible…

What are y'all's input on this?

Why is it so slow to boot?

What can I do to get drivers to load on boot? Does it matter, since it all works?

Is my Wi-Fi driver really not loading? But some compatibility thing is making it work?

What other Wayland issues should I be aware of? Like how xinput is useless?

I'm thinking of doing a fresh install, but if I'm going to have the same issues…

"You've chosen to hold back some packages"

No, I did not.

I've used Synaptic to mark things as automatic install, and dpkg to clear that error, but still cannot remove LibreOffice without it trying to remove Gnome 😢

I hate LibreOffice and the gigs of language files. I don't need a heavy app taking 5 whole minutes to load up to edit a simple text file with no extension. (I've since been setting every file for of text to open with a svelte text editor)

I should let y'all know, I switched to Linux on this machine because Windows 10 would start doing something and then ignore all input for random amounts of time. I got sick of it and threw Debian on it instead and never looked back.

The machine was immediately refreshed and booted in less than 2 minutes.

That was back on Buster. Then I did the Bullseye update and had major sound issues. I did a ton of stuff I don't remember anymore and I'm still using Pulse. I fixed it is the point. Now the Bookworm update. 🤯

I would love it if I knew a wipe and install would fix the speed issues… That's really my only complaint at this time…

I eventually managed to remove most of XFCE, and most of the languages of LibreOffice… but I'm thinking I should do a netinst and that should allow me to avoid LibreOffice…

I literally only watch media and browse the Internet with this machine. I figure if I needed word processing, Google Docs or another computer…

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      1 year ago

      Strange thing is all I've ever done is install:

      XFCE

      Gnome

      Firefox was here ootb

      And…

      an XFCE plugin, docklike taskbar I compiled from source

      Scrcpy, android screen mirror I compiled from source

      Picom, compositor I compiled from source

      Flatpack support, for openRCT

      A few themes from internet

      One thing I did notice is the Updater in Gnome always sees updates Synaptic doesn't see. Even now… weird…

      On the updated system, running Gnome, it still happens. In addition, installing extensions from Synaptic results in them never appearing (but reported as installed). I have switched to using Extension Manager from Synaptic, and it is able to install extensions properly (they can be used)

      I don't really know much about Linux, which is why I have it on this system… to hopefully gain enough knowledge to be completely comfortable with it. So it is very likely I have inadvertently created a Frankbian 😢

      Guess I was looking for confirmation