but even if Biden replaced him with the most aggressive and seasoned prosecutor on Earth today, how the absolute fucking fuck would you expect them to try this case in 28 days?
We’ve known about Gaetz’ child sex trafficking ring for about 18 months now.
Lol the people arguing about “evidence” and “investigations” are completely missing the real point, IMO.
If you or I were up on these charges, investigation, trial, and sentencing would be carried out in less than a month without hesitation or issue as far as the government is concerned.
The ONLY reason it’s taking longer than that is because of who it is.
Edit: For those downvoting without reading the link, here’s why you’re completely, categorically wrong:
“Unless the defendant consents in writing to the contrary, the trial shall not commence less than thirty days from the date on which the defendant first appears through counsel or expressly waives counsel and elects to proceed pro se.”
Biden has 28 days, so this is moot in that case, but we’ll run with “a month” to mean “31 days”. We’ll also assume we’re in fairytale land where pretrial discovery for a case involving several different federal crimes over a period of 4 to 7 years ago can find all relevant evidence and witnesses within a span of 30 days, that the defendant opts for a bench trial instead of a jury and the prosecution agrees, that all of the witnesses can miraculously be scheduled on the same arbitrary day, and that the defense can’t successfully petition to delay the trial (30 days is extremely hasty for this sort of thing, so they probably could in the real world), then @SARGE@startrek.website still needs to explain how, in the span of one day, the trial is supposed to have opening statements, presentation of witnesses and evidence, direct and cross-examination of witnesses, closing arguments, the judge’s deliberation, and somehow sentencing??? in the span of a single day.
We’ve known about Gaetz’ child sex trafficking ring for about 18 months now.
Initial reports, and rock-solid evidence to bring to court to try an elected sitting congressman are two VERY different things. 18 months is rarely enough time to do discovery and complete a trial for a murder with multiple eye-witnesses.
Hell, the Parkland Shooting, where he admitted to doing it and pleaded guilty took over 3 YEARS to come to conclusion. Gaetz would have been fighting tooth and nail to ride it out to the next administration who would promptly try to drop the case.
The Parkland high school shooting was a mass shooting that occurred on February 14, 2018
On October 20, 2021, Cruz pleaded guilty to all charges and apologized for his crimes. The prosecution sought the death penalty, and a four-month death penalty trial was expected to commence in January 2022.
Initial reports, and rock-solid evidence to bring to court to try an elected sitting congressman are two VERY different things. 18 months is rarely enough time to do discovery and complete a trial for a murder with multiple eye-witnesses.
We literally saw the venmo transaction lol
I’ve seen people charged, tried, and prosecuted for soliciting sex in a weekend.
Yup. Biden and Garland are still shit. If you think I’m excusing their overall conduct, you’re wrong, although I do at least agree with some of the points that a9 makes above which temper my criticism. What I’m calling out specifically is the OP’s asinine idea to federally prosecute Gaetz at the 11th hour. They’ve (correctly) pointed out in order to defeat a strawman they constructed that double jeopardy is distinct between state and federal prosecution. What they’ve failed to point out, however, is that federal double jeopardy is catastrophic for the case because the jurisdiction which would have the authority to prosecute otherwise is the state of Florida. At this point, the damage from Biden’s and Garland’s decision not to prosecute is done and dusted; their idea makes no sense and only makes things worse. It’s like accusing a surgeon of waiting too long to operate (a potentially fair criticsm) and telling them that therefore the best option is to open up the patient and leave them on the table to die.
We’ve known about Gaetz’ child sex trafficking ring for about 18 months now.
Lol the people arguing about “evidence” and “investigations” are completely missing the real point, IMO.
If you or I were up on these charges, investigation, trial, and sentencing would be carried out in less than a month without hesitation or issue as far as the government is concerned.
The ONLY reason it’s taking longer than that is because of who it is.
Full stop.
What you’re describing is literally impossible under federal law.
Edit: For those downvoting without reading the link, here’s why you’re completely, categorically wrong:
“Unless the defendant consents in writing to the contrary, the trial shall not commence less than thirty days from the date on which the defendant first appears through counsel or expressly waives counsel and elects to proceed pro se.”
Biden has 28 days, so this is moot in that case, but we’ll run with “a month” to mean “31 days”. We’ll also assume we’re in fairytale land where pretrial discovery for a case involving several different federal crimes over a period of 4 to 7 years ago can find all relevant evidence and witnesses within a span of 30 days, that the defendant opts for a bench trial instead of a jury and the prosecution agrees, that all of the witnesses can miraculously be scheduled on the same arbitrary day, and that the defense can’t successfully petition to delay the trial (30 days is extremely hasty for this sort of thing, so they probably could in the real world), then @SARGE@startrek.website still needs to explain how, in the span of one day, the trial is supposed to have opening statements, presentation of witnesses and evidence, direct and cross-examination of witnesses, closing arguments, the judge’s deliberation, and somehow sentencing??? in the span of a single day.
Initial reports, and rock-solid evidence to bring to court to try an elected sitting congressman are two VERY different things. 18 months is rarely enough time to do discovery and complete a trial for a murder with multiple eye-witnesses.
Hell, the Parkland Shooting, where he admitted to doing it and pleaded guilty took over 3 YEARS to come to conclusion. Gaetz would have been fighting tooth and nail to ride it out to the next administration who would promptly try to drop the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkland_high_school_shooting
We literally saw the venmo transaction lol
I’ve seen people charged, tried, and prosecuted for soliciting sex in a weekend.
How odd! The courts operate on the weekends where you live? Go to jail around here on a Friday and you’re sitting until Monday, at least.
Are we just making shit up now?! FFS, the report is out and plenty fucking damning.
Not at all! Him and a friend were arranging minors traveling over state lines for sex.
That’s called child sex trafficking.
Yup. Biden and Garland are still shit. If you think I’m excusing their overall conduct, you’re wrong, although I do at least agree with some of the points that a9 makes above which temper my criticism. What I’m calling out specifically is the OP’s asinine idea to federally prosecute Gaetz at the 11th hour. They’ve (correctly) pointed out in order to defeat a strawman they constructed that double jeopardy is distinct between state and federal prosecution. What they’ve failed to point out, however, is that federal double jeopardy is catastrophic for the case because the jurisdiction which would have the authority to prosecute otherwise is the state of Florida. At this point, the damage from Biden’s and Garland’s decision not to prosecute is done and dusted; their idea makes no sense and only makes things worse. It’s like accusing a surgeon of waiting too long to operate (a potentially fair criticsm) and telling them that therefore the best option is to open up the patient and leave them on the table to die.