Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy… and then it’s only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can’t it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It’s so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic… which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

  • Vespair@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    59
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    19 days ago

    I say this every time Epic comes up but it remains the same.

    Steam is the pro-consumer storefront. Epic is the pro-developer storefront. What Epic seems to fail to understand is that by being so staunchly pro-developer, they effectively become anti-consumer. And as a consumer, I’m just not going to spend money on an anti-consumer marketplace.

    When Epic considers adding necessary pro-consumer measures like actual user reviews so I can hear how a game actual performs from real end users, then and only then will I consider Epic a real storefront viable for consumers.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      18 days ago

      Epic is the pro-developer storefront.

      I think their historically-bad UE5 documentation and laser focus on adding features optimized for Fortnite but terrible for other uses beg to differ.

      They’re the pro-shareholder storefront. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • NateNate60@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      18 days ago

      I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Epic’s main selling point was it’s lower storefront fee (15% vs 30%, if I recall). It didn’t offer any other benefits for consumers and I think Epic realised rather quickly that the people who are actually supposed to be paying money for all of this are the buyers and not the sellers, and thus they’ve resorted to strategies like making games “exclusive” or trying to bribe players with free games.

    • SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      18 days ago

      Pro-developer never needs to be anti-consumer. They are staunchly both right now.

      • Vespair@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        18 days ago

        I agree they don’t have to be anti-consumer to be pro-developer, but my point is that that is how they are approaching being pro-developer - by limiting pro-consumer features at the behest of developers. Or perhaps I should be saying more actively publishers, to be fair.

    • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      18 days ago

      I understand that they are pro-developers, like, they only tale 15% of the sales etc. But why are they anti-consumers?

      I use Heroic Games Launcher on Nobara Linux and my experience is more seamless than buying and installing games from Steam. I don’t have to bother with Epic Games Launcher, I just download a game and run via proton or wine.

      • frazorth@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        18 days ago

        The fact that you can’t use the Epic games launcher on Linux should be telling you what you need to know.

        How is their 12 foot interface these days?

        How is their position on running things via wine? Tim the bellend has generally been telling Linux users to use wine, but at the same time been generally hostile to it.

          • frazorth@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            ·
            edit-2
            18 days ago

            Yep. Fucking hypocrite tells people to use something he is hostile towards.

            Fuck Epic, they are destroying PC gaming which means they are not developer friendly.

            They are actively trying to shrink the market that developers can target.

            • pivot_root@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              18 days ago

              “Fucking hypocrite” and “Epic Games”. Never have any other set of 4 words fit together so perfectly.

      • Vespair@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        18 days ago

        I gave what I see as a significant example in my original comment. Not being able to see comments or reviews from those who have purchased games through the storefront is a problem for me. If a game has a bug or problem, especially if it is one that could potentially be tied to or unique to the EGS version, I would like to know about it. That EGS currently doesn’t provide readily available user feedback when it frankly has been the standard as defined by steam, just doesn’t for me.

        So you have to ask yourself why they wouldn’t include such a simple a rudimentary feature - the only result I can come up with is to appease developers who want to prevent being negatively impacted by bad reviews. Thus what we have is prioritizing the wants of developers at the expense of features which benefit consumers.