• Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 months ago

    Whatever the reason might be, the fact is that Trump is getting much gentler treatment in 2024 than Hillary Clinton did in 2016. That’s especially concerning given that Trump’s alleged crimes are many orders of magnitude worse than Clinton’s alleged crimes.

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      3 months ago

      Definitely seems like the media, bought up by very conservative old men, has a favourite in the election. Not sure if they’re pushing the narrative that Trump is surging to depress Democratic Party vote or motivate us to not get complacent.

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        Seriously? Is it even possible to not know? Or you just like making people list them?

        Here is just the sexual ones.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

        Here are his current active trials in court

        https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

        There’s of course more, but isn’t that already enough?

        Unless you wanted Hillary Clinton’s for comparison. She used her personal e-mail address a lot instead of the one she is supposed to use as a high ranking government employee. Her e-mails may, and did, contain classified information. Only the official government e-mail server is intended to be used for sending classified infirmation due to risk of breach by outside individuals. No such breach seems to have occurred, but still a crime to have put them in a position where they weren’t officially as secure as they could have been.

        The result of going through 60’000 plus e-mails was that no intentional wrong was done and they recommended no charges.

        https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

        Now that we are on the topic of improper handling of classified materials… guess what else Trump has done… and like, actually. Like in a way that resulted in actually being charged.

        He Illegally stored a bunch of classified material where he was living, and while having that information, invited foreign government officials to also stay there. We can’t know if anything intentionally malicious happened. But we can certainly assume that classified information was not “as secure as it should have been”. And when asked to bring that classified material he was illegally storing back, he refused.

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        The difference is stark and utterly bonkers. Look at every single headline coming out of CNN, CBS, NYT, NBC, ABC, FOX – literally all of them… the fact they’re all reporting on Harris and trump as though it’s a normal candidate dichotomy and not the insane disparity between a politician and a raving lunatic who should be sectioned by his loved ones for his own protection, is simply madness.

        This should not be a contest. Nobody should be taking seriously a man who is a demonstrable racist, fascist, unhinged lunatic who rants about toilets and windmills, who has been found liable for rape, who can barely string sentences together, who has felony convictions, and who has demonstrably committed treason twice – and he’s treated the same by the media as a career prosecutor with none of that and who has actually sane (if centrist) policies….

        Do you see how crazy that is?

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            It’s not a trap, Jesus.

            FPTP voting means 3rd parties can only be spoilers for the party they’re most aligned with. That’s a mathematical fact, whether we like it or not.

            I hate that as much as you do, but edgy protest voting only gives the fascists more control.

            If you really care about that, stop propping up fascists, and instead put that effort into an actual grassroots effort to make the US electoral system more fair:

            Support FairVote Action.

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                    It’s called Duverger’s law if you’re actually interested in expanding your understanding on the topic and not acting in bad faith.

                    This isn’t something to be debated, it’s really just how the math of FPTP works out. CGP Gray has a really good video on the topic as well- that’s what the previous commenter linked to. I’d recommend giving it a watch.

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              3 months ago

              So you telling me one of the two most unpopular candidates is gonna win on their merits? Cause sounds like nepotism with extra steps.

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                1: Who are you saying is one of the most unpopular candidates? You seem pretty misinformed.

                2: Do you know what nepotism means? Which candidate inherited their position because of family ties?

                Your comment makes no logical sense.

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                  Kamala Harris is the candidate because? Oh she was grandfathered in. And who do you think is popular? Cause irl i hear basically the lemmycrat takes that they will hold their nose to vote Harris, meanwhile again IRL everyone says same about Trump. I find no organic support for either candidate only hate on the “other option.”

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                    No. She’s the vice president, and it’s very common for a vice president to become the candidate in the next election.

                    Because I doubt you’ll care enough to click that link, here’s a partial list:

                    John Adams (under George Washington)
                    Thomas Jefferson (under John Adams)
                    Martin van Buren (under Andrew Jackson)
                    John Breckenridge (under James Buchanan)
                    Henry Wallace (under Franklin Roosevelt)
                    Richard Nixon (under Dwight Eisenhower)
                    Walter Mondale (under Jimmy Carter)
                    George H W Bush (under Ronald Reagan)
                    Al Gore (under Bill Clinton)

                    And I’ve left out many, many more who didn’t wind up with the nomination, partly because I’m on mobile and cross-referencing between Lemmy and web sites is a lot of work.

                    This is nothing remotely like nepotism. Pretty much every VP does this. It’s part of the point, ffs.

                    Any more arguments I can immediately debunk with facts?