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    Dear conservatives.

    If you want eugenics allow people to abort and do generic testing on their kids before they're born. It accomplishes the same thing without the brutal state control and human rights violations.

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      It accomplishes the same thing without the brutal state control and human rights violations.

      Well, that's the problem. They can't control people without those two components. It's not really eugenics if it just naturally emerges from individual choices.

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      But that wouldn't satisfy their sense of self righteous vengeance. If you prevent a problem altogether, there'd be nobody to punish for it.

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      Sometimes was awesome but many times it develved into the wrongest shit of all no wonder it ended up dying.

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    Huh. Looks like we'll be getting the Eugenics Wars after the Bell Riots in this timeline. Still on track for Irish Unification, too.

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      Not looking fwd to WWIII though, looks fucking horrifying. I hope I can make it to at least see first contact.

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    Something I didn't learn until this week, but James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family (wrote "Dare to Discipline", a book about how we really needed to start hitting kid again in the 70s), was an assistant to a counselor who was a eugenics-loving, racist marriage counselor. Dobson wrote/published materials for Popenoe (the eugenicist counselor) as his assistant. Very few years later, Dobson started writing many of those same ideas as himself, but wrapped up with religion.

    So these young whippersnappers might be trying to bring back eugenics, but that's largely because for the last 50 years, eugenics have been evangelized to many, many (especially Christians) in all but name.

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      Yet another reason to despise that guy. That's an interesting find I was completely unaware of. Sad if anyone is actually taking childrearing advice from the writing of superstitious chumps from more than a millenia ago. Like, gee, we kind of learned a few things since then…

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    There already is a respectable kind of eugenics.

    It’s called “genetic counseling”.

    Here’s why it doesn’t sit well with pseudoconservatives (aka authoritarians):

    It’s consensual.

    It involves giving accurate, scientifically based information to potential parents, on the risk of genetic disorders that might lead to unhealthy children, so that they can make better decisions about parenthood.

    It does not involve racial pseudoscience, antisemitism, or violent compulsion of any sort. As such, it does not fit well with pseudoconservatism, fascism, etc.

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      They want it to eliminate phenotypes that are different…

      Normal people want it to eliminate negative genotypes that lead to genetic issues and lifetimes of suffering for future generations.

      Two completely different goals.

      They just fundamentally don’t understand genetics, like when you tell them there’s more genetic diversity within Africa than between every other population outside of Africa. They can’t see genes by looking at someone, but they can see phenotypes. So 9/10 a conservative will say “but they’re all Black”.

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    Fashion trends seem to follow a 20 year cycle, and a 30 year cycle, where ‘90s trends are coming back into fashion.

    Fascism trends seem to follow a 90 year cycle, where ‘30s trends are coming back into fashion.

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    In 10-20 years, if not sooner, the highest IQ entity is not going to be bio-human. So, what’s the point?

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          Yes, it's toxic and bad. But Eugenics is one of the worst things to ever happen to the world. I just don't want that downplayed at all. People who believe in eugenics literally think they should play God and decide who lives and who dies.

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    It shouldn't be a surprise the racist right is pushing racist pseudoscience. The right believes in an immutable race hierarchy despite race being a social and not biological construct. In other words believing things without scientific evidence as usual.