David Friedman writes in new book that U.S. support for Israel is ‘based first and foremost on biblical prophecies and values.'

Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman writes in new book that U.S. support for Israeli sovereignty is ‘based first and foremost on biblical prophecies and values’

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        687·
        2 months ago

        Same here, because when everybody is against us, and don’'t give a fuck about Palestinian genocide, I can’t vote for Harris who is only partially on our side.
        My logic is flawless. I will now go ahead and shoot my other foot.

        • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
          363·
          2 months ago

          “You’ll respect my choices and wishes like i accept yours, right? RIGHT?!??!?!?!” - Enlightened Stein voter.

          • Buffalox@lemmy.world
            214·
            2 months ago

            Of course I will, just don’t expect me to be able to help you when they come for you, because you helped vote the leopards into power.

            • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
              202·
              2 months ago

              Oh, trust me, I know. I was just poking fun and quoting a particular user on here who goes around using this same logic while attacking other’s views and then victimizing him/herself whenever he/she remotely gets any resistance.

              • Buffalox@lemmy.world
                121·
                2 months ago

                I understand it was sarcasm. You wrote enlightened Stein voter, that can ONLY be a joke. So don’t worry.
                I’ve seen similar comments, that are absolutely insane from people supporting Gaza.
                My response however, was meant for those who actually believe there’s a better third option.

            • TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              Yep…

              I’m wondering if the only answer to these people is: “Don’t listen to this fool. If you do what they say they’re gonna do, you’ll end up getting Trump and Project 2025, as will your sister, wife, or mother if you’re male, and you ALL will suffer!”

          • MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml
            62·
            2 months ago

            I swear there’s a weirdo Jill Stein supporter who always shows up on Lemmy threads and says nearly that exact comment. Like hell no I don’t respect your wack choice.

          • barsquid@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 months ago

            It’s funny because we all know exactly who that is, too. Of course trying to use “respect” in both the sense of “respecting their right” and also “not (correctly) calling them a dumbass every time.”

    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      2 months ago

      Well, both sides want to end the genocide. One by gently asking Israel to negotiate a ceasefire, the other by urging Israel to finish the job.

    • K1nsey6@lemmy.mlEnglish
      48·
      2 months ago

      When one of those sides completely defunded UNRWA they are the same, When one of those sides keeps providing weapons and money to slaughter Palestinians, they are the same. When Biden and Harris are providing those weapons and money to Israel they are allowing Netanyahu to ‘finish the job’

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        42·
        2 months ago

        Lol you have to preemptively use Donald’s quote because you know which party is worse and don’t want your campaigning on Donald’s behalf to get interrupted with facts or anything of the sort. The topic of the article is what you want to happen. Monstrous.

        • K1nsey6@lemmy.ml
          36·
          2 months ago

          I’m using Trump’s quote because liberals quote it while ignoring their team is finishing the job.

          • barsquid@lemmy.world
            42·
            2 months ago

            You’re using Donald’s quote to pretend Dems are as bad as the guy you’re campaigning on behalf of.

            • K1nsey6@lemmy.ml
              26·
              2 months ago

              Dems are as bad, I’m not campaigning for Trump. If I’m saying Dems are as bad as Republicans, Republicans must be pretty damn bad. That’s isn’t the typical endorsement of support from someone.

              • barsquid@lemmy.world
                4·
                2 months ago

                If you’re saying Dems are as bad as Repubs you are either delusional or deliberately disregarding reality. Of course it is the latter, since you are on here campaigning for Donald every day.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
      526·
      2 months ago

      I mean, Israel is in the process of annexing the West Bank right now, I don’t see the Biden administration doing anything about it.

        • jonne@infosec.pub
          310·
          2 months ago

          If it just takes longer to get the same outcome, is it really harm reduction?

          Either way, I’m not telling anyone how to vote, as the calculus depends entirely on where you live. In swing states, sure, your vote or lack thereof could make a difference. In the states where most people actually live (red or blue), you should be allowed to vote third party without getting yelled at by libs.

          Ultimately, if the candidates don’t want to meet the voters where they are (and for the majority of Dems, they are in favour of an arms embargo against Israel), it’s their fault if they lose, not because of individual voters or random guys posting on the internet.

          • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
            3·
            2 months ago

            If the option is 5 people dying every day or 10 people dying every day, yes harm reduction says we should limit the amount of people dying every day. That way we have more time to save the people.

            I’m not a fucking lib, I’m a leftist, and I’m telling you that Trump is worse than the status quo. He only really started to fuck shit up towards the end of his presidency and that was because he only just realized he could change the rules and get rid of the bureaucracy that actually keeps our government limping along. Next time he, or anyone with an R next to their name, takes office they’re going to destroy anything of value left in our government so they can hoard the ashes. This will continue to be the reality of the situation until being a fascist is no longer politically viable.

            Yes, it’s a hostage situation. Yes, it’s royally fucked, but the last 4 years has seen an incredible shift in both public support of good policy and politicians promoting good policy. There is a light, there is good coming of all this shit, it just requires your support for the good that’s happening, and your disdain to be pointed at the bad. Don’t point your disdain at the “not good enough” and shrug at the unbelievable bad. That’s how things get worse.

  • Ekybio@lemmy.world
    374·
    2 months ago

    Im saving this post in case some smoothbrain goes “bOtH sIdEs” again, or just to annoy the grifters a little…

    • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
      61·
      2 months ago

      I have been telling everyone about trumps wonderful pogroms for the palestinian people and finally the news recognizes it.

    • zergtoshi@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 months ago

      I wonder - and I mean this seriouslyand not in an /s way - what happens, if you object “bOth SiDeS” with “Why not vote for Harris then?”?
      Surely you won’t convince a Trumpologist this way.
      But doesn’t that also give leeway to present voting for Harris as equally good choice in the eyes of Trumpologists?

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 months ago

        Because they either value virtue signaling over actual change, or are just spreading propaganda.

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        Option A:

        “I couldn’t possibly do even a single action that would make me even slightly complicit in the genocide from either side,” while spending all day campaigning for everyone to vote the same way as MAGAs want them to, “in fact, the Dems are so far right that they are literally indistinguishable from theocratic authoritarians promising to deliver a dictatorship.”

        Option B:

        “Well, he cannot do worse than this,” regarding a guy who blasted Yemen and wants to “finish the job” in Gaza, “and this will force the Dems to move left to get voters next election, after voting is abolished, they certainly won’t move rightward looking for people who will actually vote.”

  • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
    29·
    2 months ago

    He wants to make Palestine a territory of Israel’s, like Puerto Rico is to the US. The rub is, the powers in Israel just want to wipe out the Palestinians, so I doubt they will like this plan.

  • penquin@lemm.ee
    16·
    2 months ago

    Good ole religion. Let’s end the world so our beloved Jeebus comes out of his fucking fox hole. Why can’t he just come out of it without so much pain amd and suffering to innocent people? What a fucking asshole if he were real?

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      10·
      2 months ago

      The loving Jesus depicted in the New Testament would be shot, hung, or even re-crucified by his followers if he dared show up and open his mouth. He ain’t coming back.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        The Baha’is believe he already came and went. World ended in 1844, a new one replaced it.

        Just like the world ended around 4500 BCE when The Green Sahara period and the Bronze Age Collapse happened within 200 years of each other, and some scared ass Jews wrote the Torah, inventing their entire history out of the ruins of Egypt, despite never having been there.