• Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)@fosstodon.org
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    3 months ago

    @zogwarg

    Consider traditional databases which let you search for strings. Vector databases let you search the meaning.

    For one client, someone could search for “videos about cats”. With stemming and stop words, that becomes “cat” and the results might be lists of videos about house cats and maybe the unix “cat” command. Tigers, lions, cheetahs? Nope.

    Vector database will return tigers/lions/cheetahs because it “knows” they are cats. A much smarter search. I’ve built that for a client.

    • Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)@fosstodon.org
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      3 months ago

      @zogwarg For a traditional database, you can get those “lions/cheetahs/tigers” by manually attaching metadata to all videos. That is slow, error-prone, and expensive. It also only works for the metadata you *think* to assign to videos.

      A good vector database takes a query in natural language and lets you search the “meaning” of unstructured data. You can search a data corpus much faster this way even though it’s largely unstructured data!

      That’s real value, and it’s not expensive.

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        3 months ago

        I realize it’s probably a toy example but specifically for “cats” you could achieve the similar results by running a thesaurus/synonym-set on your stem words. With the added benefit that a client could add custom synonyms, for more domain-specific stuff that the LLM would probably not know, and not reliably learn through in-prompt or with fine-tuning. (Although i’d argue that if i’m looking for cats, I don’t want to also see videos of tigers, or based on the “understanding” of the LLM of what a cat might be)

        For the labeling of videos itself, the most valuable labels would be added by humans, and/or full-text search on the transcript of the video if applicable, speech-to-text being more in the realm of traditional ML than in the realm of GenAI.

        As a minor quibble your use case of GenAI is not really “Generative” which is the main thing it’s being sold as.

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            3 months ago

            fosstodon is the programming dot dev of mastodon and I mean that in every negative way you can imagine

            your posts all give me slimy SEO vibes and you haven’t shown any upward trajectory since claiming that only generative AI lacks a separation between code and data (fucking what? seriously, think on this) so you’re getting trimmed

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              3 months ago

              I just ended up throwing the name into a search engine (one of those boring old actually search engine things; how pedestrian of me)

              I’m Curtis “Ovid” Poe. I’ve been building software for decades. Today I largely work with generative AI, Perl, Python, and Agile consulting. I regularly speak at conferences and corporate events across Europe and the US.

              ah.

            • FRACTRANS@awful.systems
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              3 months ago

              back when I used the wider fediverse more frequently I had fosstodon on mute for a significant amount of time

              glad to know it’s still Like That