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www.middleeastmonitor.com

US presidential candidate, Jill Stein, says because of AIPAC’s $100 million funding of the US election, it has become '‘politically toxic’ to speak out against the genocide in Gaza.

‘If we have concerns about the right to life before birth, how about a right to life after birth,’ she said in reference to Israel’s killing of innocent children and the elderly in Gaza. US President Joe Biden 'can end this war with a phone call’, she added.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    In my type of logic, “the system is broken therefore let’s reform the system by doing X Y and Z” would be more sensible, to the point that it kinda calls into question their motivations behind saying the first thing, but what do I know.

    And the way to fix the system is by empowering the people that have broken it down over the years?

    When the DNC took away Bernie in 2016 they destroyed the entire argument of “changing the system from the inside”.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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      4 months ago

      Rewind to the civil rights movement

      Some black activist who is 1,000% outside the political mainstream, but wildly popular within all segments of the American populace runs for the nomination of one of the major parties, gets FORTY THREE PERCENT OF THE VOTE (and only that low because the establishment cheated its ass off)

      Is the right answer:

      1. Holy shit that was almost a RADICAL change to the system, the anti abortion people took 40 years to get their radical change enacted and all it took for this one was like a popular guy and a moderate amount of internet organizing. We can fuckin win this. This is 10 times better than EITHER grimly voting for some third party who will never get more than 2% of the vote, OR grimly voting for whoever the DNC’s favorite is even though it’s horrible. Why, I bet even the establishment candidates will take notice of that and start pursuing all these worker-focused policies once they’re in office, not that the media would take any notice of it if they did
      2. Man fuck that let’s never try that again, or even vote at all

      ?

      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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        4 months ago

        Sorry are you saying the guy that spent his entire life claiming the system can be changed from the inside and got blocked using dirty tactics proves your point? “moderate internet organizing” is a slight understatement here.

        Let me correct you

        Holy shit that was ALMOST a radical change to the system but then the Democrats sabotaged it because they would rather let Trump win than give up their duopoly.

        • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          You sound like you think he accomplished nothing because he didn’t accomplish everything. Since he ran for the nomination in 2016 we have more progressives in federal office and higher youth voter turnout (meaning higher chance of electing more progressives). Change is happening. The primaries are where we need that pressure, by progressive candidates running and progressive voters showing up. There were 0.9 M Democratic primary ballots cast in Texas in 2024. That’s not going to cut it to get better candidates.

          • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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            4 months ago

            We have Donald Trump about to become president because the Democrat president wants to support Genocide more than be a good president.

            Change happened indeed.

            • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              So you’re willing to let a man who says Israel must finish the job have authority of our military because the Democratic party presumptive nominee is merely better instead of perfect?

              Ps - I am inferring that you will not vote for the Democratic nominee unless they are not Biden, so do correct if I’m wrong on that

              • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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                4 months ago

                Ps - I am inferring that you will not vote for the Democratic nominee unless they are not Biden, so do correct if I’m wrong on that

                You can go back in my post history like 4 months I have already clearly stated that during the Michigan uncommitted votes. Far before now when everyone is now trying to get rid of Biden for his age which is another group of people that won’t vote for Biden.

                Biden has crossed a red line. And unlike Biden in Rafah, crossing a red line for someone with principles means that it’s Joever. Biden had his chance to redeem himself and he decided to ignore it so surely he doesn’t need those votes right?

                If Democrats keep Biden in they must be very confident in all those votes he gained from supporting Genocide.

                • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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                  4 months ago

                  You can go back in my post history like 4 months I have already clearly stated that

                  I could have but it’s just easier to clearly state my assumption in the present. Even if I had whose to say you hadn’t changed your mind on something since then.

                  You acknowledge that Trump will be worse for the Palestinians, right?

                  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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                    4 months ago

                    You acknowledge that Trump will be worse for the Palestinians, right?

                    Slightly maybe? If it’s at all possible to be worse than Biden.

                    In the long term Biden and the Democrats learning that Genocide is not a great way to campaign is far more important. Rewarding Biden guarantees he will keep doing it and nobody in the Democratic party will have any incentive to change.

                    Luckily for the Democrats they have a great excuse to replace Joe Biden right now because sticking with a geriatric will guarantee them the loss.