• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s completely fucking bonkers NOAA is an amazing organization and delivers so much value on such a small budget.

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      This is exactly why they need to destroy it, the “free” market can’t compete with the economic efficiency of a well run government program

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        Are there any real private competitors though? The work that NOAA does is only valuable because of the extreme scale it’s carried out by and replicating that would be quite expensive.

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          No, and there genuinely can’t be due to everything NOAA does. I used to work in the engineering group for NWS and there are so many parts to weather prediction and climate recording it’s not even funny. Sure there are satellites and radar, but there’s also over 200 weather balloons released each day across the US, there’s highly specialized software that fills the unique non-profit driven mission of the NWS, there’s advanced weather modeling run on super computers, there’s a whole network of thousands of volunteer observers that record temperature, dew point, soil temps, evaporation readings, and more to support agriculture, and then there’s the outreach both to places like schools but also to support things like amateur radio clubs and weather enthusiast clubs that all provide free observations and reports. Private industry consumes all of that data for free to repackage and sell as a product (they technically add value by tailoring it in many cases or use it to run proprietary models). All of that is just the NWS as well, NOAA does so much more that impacts everything from agriculture to fisheries and it’s so clear that the hard right pushing P2025 have no clue what they actually do. This single move would likely destroy the US position as a global breadbasket, and it’s just one tiny piece of P2025.

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              Oh it gets worse and still only in NWS area. All of the severe weather alerts from thunderstorms to hurricanes are also done by NWS. Not to mention the radio stations they broadcast all of that information on that are also used to help tune antennas and receivers.

              This would kill thousands of people every year. And it’s mostly red states that would feel the biggest burden of being hurt. It does not make any sense except to acknowledge that the people writing P2025 really do not give 2 flying shits about anyone but themselves.

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          AccuWeather has been lobbying for this; Joe Bastardi knows he can’t do as good a job so he wants to end the competition

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          replicating that would be quite expensive.

          Indeed. But; If you can eradicate the free market first, the private market can take over and use high running/development costs to justify high access fees.

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          I’m sure the actual legislation would be a transition to privatisation. Suddenly musk and bezos et al a are demonstrating their weather satellites