• mub@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    They are just jealous that someone else is getting all the tasty data, and they think it should be going to a US company instead.

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        8 months ago

        Doesn’t matter who hosts it. Oracle has no access to the user data. Just because some website is hosted there does not mean that they can see the data.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah, it’s not about ‘data.’

        It’s about money. Lol. American rulers want a piece of that pie, and they have plenty of useful idiots spreading FUD to help them.

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        Despite this, they don’t believe tiktok’s assurances that the CCP doesn’t actually have ready access to the data. However the only evidence they’ve presented is testimony from a former employee.

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          Even if that were the case, couldn’t the Chinese government just covertly get one of their companies to buy any such data from companies like Meta and Google anyways, and then request it from one of their own firms if they wanted to? Tiktok just makes it so that the Chinese government can (if they were harvesting American data) acquire it for free.

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      More than that, US companies have maintained monopolies for decades in the tech sector, and feel entitled to them even as markets shift away.

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      I’m a bit worried about the amount of people I see making this argument whenever I see posts about a TikTok ban/acquisition.

      I’m getting the impression that, either:

      1. People don’t believe there’s (significant) Chinese propaganda on TikTok.
      2. People believe there would be (significant) US propaganda on TikTok following an acquisition.
      3. Given the choice, people would rather see Chinese propaganda than US propaganda.

      Am I correct? Is there a nuance I’m missing?

      I can understand concerns over point #2 here, but #1 and #3 seem wild to me.

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        Given the choice, people would rather see Chinese propaganda than US propaganda.

        Well since I see US propaganda literally everywhere else it’s nice to get some counter-programming.

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        8 months ago

        Yli.think you make a reasonable point, but it feels like choosing between getting stabbed in the left leg vs the right leg.

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          If it were the US vs another democratic country, I would feel like that too.

          I’m particularly concerned with China (and Russia) because:

          • They are not a democratic country.
          • They do not have freedom of speech like most countries
          • As far as I perceive, they are generally enemies of well-intentioned countries.

          I might have a different perspective though. I’m a fairly recent US immigrant from Canada.

          Edit: I’d like to add, my tone may come across wrong over written text, I’m just trying to understand people’s overall perspective and whether mine is different, I’m not trying to argue and I’m not upset at you nor any of the commenters I’ve seen on similar posts.