• Cruxifux@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Being realistic about the situation your country is in will make it easier to create realistic solutions. Pretending this did anything other than show that the left has absolutely zero power in the states is counterproductive to improving your country.

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          10 months ago

          I am being realistic. Are you? Putting forward bills and forcing the corrupt and right-wing legislators to vote against them on the record is literally one of the biggest things that leftists have been calling for, for decades, that capitalist Democratic leaders have been suppressing, because it hurts their control of the party. Not doing this is exactly what right-wing Democrats want. Doing nothing is not a realistic solution to anything.

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        10 months ago

        Is that why your current “left” party, that’s in power has pumped more oil than any country to ever exist, has twice the migrants detained in cages than when trump left office, breaks strikes, and bends over backwards to supply arms to a country engaged in genocide?

        I think you should be more honest about how well its working.

        • Skipcast@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          I’m sure all these things you just wrote definitely have no nuance or context to them

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            10 months ago

            I’m sure you’re fine with it as long as it’s slightly better than the republicans lol. This is what decades of lesser of two evils politics gets you: evil.

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              10 months ago

              Well it wouldn’t make sense to be fine with the worser option would it

              And I’m not fine with it, but what’s the realistic alternative?

              I’m not from the US btw, I just have a morbid curiosity watching it from afar

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          10 months ago

          America doesn’t have a left party, what are you talking about? Do you think Bernie won the presidency or something?

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      10 months ago

      I mean, screwing with the Overton window has worked great for Republicans. It’s absolutely fair play to use the same tactic from the other side. Frankly, it should have been done the second it became apparent that Republicans in general were trying to push the window to the right.

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        10 months ago

        I don’t see how this is a victory for the Overton window. When Biden is in power screwing with it in the other direction.

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      I’d argue it hasn’t truly happened yet bc half the voter base gets brainwashed by propaganda