Each time I try AMD graphics, something is fucked for me. Back with fglrx, fglrx just sucked, so I used Nvidia. Then I had an AMD right around when they finally had opensource drivers, but it was still buggy as hell. So I went with Nvidia again (first a GTX 790, then a GTX 1060). In the meantime I had a new work notebook where I also went with an AMD APU, and had driver crashes for a long time when I was in video calls and it had to decode multiple streams. That thankfully stabilized with Linux 6.4.
Since sooo many people in the community swear by AMD, I thought “dammit, let’s try it again for my new desktop” and got an 7800rx … and I have to reboot ~5 times until I finally make it to a running xserver or wayland session. Apparently I am hit by this problem (at least I hope so). But that doesn’t even read nice … the fix seems to be to revert another fix for powermanagement. So I either have a mostly non-booting card or suboptimal power management.
I start to regret having chosen AMD … again :-/ I seem to be cursed.
I’ve had similar issues. I don’t understand the love for AMD. My whole rig is AMD, but it’s constantly having GPU crashes. All games run at high FPS and my CPU temps seem nominal. But the games will crash. Everything from RimWorld to Baldurs Gate 3. They all run pinned at 60fps but randomly crash. I’ve tried a thousand different configurations and drivers. I’ve tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint. I’m now just accepting that I can’t rely on it as a gaming rig. I like that AMD is trying to be progressive with open source drivers but the quality doesn’t seem to be there. My next rig might be Nvidia and Intel. But we will see.
It runs Wayland. That’s all the reason I need.
What does that mean? Genuinely don’t know what it means that it runs Wayland.
Oh I get it now. I need to see if my rig is running Wayland.
Weird. I would check PSU next.
My issue was the GPU fan and the PSU fan would blow into each other. I opened the PSU and reversed the fan
Hah, I would not expect that to kill it. Maybe a small build. The other day I was switching the cards and realized my CPU fan and case fan were both disconnected, idk how the hell it was running without overheating… except I always have the side of the case off because the 3080 will shut me down otherwise.
Yeah, but having the fans off just means the heat is passively dissipated. Having another fan blow the hot air back in is worse since it just stays there
Maybe 🤔
Did you check the system logs to see what caused it?
Many things can result in seemingliy random crashes. Any overclock (including XMP and Expo) or undervolt or even a bios version can be problematic.
I would check first if it’s stable on windows.
It’s not stable on Windows either. But I haven’t looked at logs because I didn’t really know what - or how - to check.
Most distros use systemd and its logging solution: journald. You can use journalctl to read the logs around the time of the crash for e.g.:
journalctl -S -5mthis shows the last 5 minutes. Use this when a game crashes but the system continues working and did not reboot.journalctl -b -1 -S -10mthis shows the last 10 minutes from the previous boot. Use this if the crash froze the whole system and rebooted.Look for red lines (errors) and what wrote them. AMD GPU faults usually have the ‘amdgpu’ mentioned, memory errors could appear as ‘protection fault’.
Looks like this is the errors I’m seeing. I know it’s not helpful to just drop this in the chat, but I’m doing it for posterity (and to let you know your comment did in fact help me)!
Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_dm_commit_planes.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Waiting for fences timed out! Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=17063130, emitted seq=17063132 Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 161654 thread redDispatcher9 pid 161668 Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset begin! Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: [drm:amdgpu_ring_test_helper [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring kiq_2.1.0 test failed (-110) Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_hw_fini [amdgpu]] *ERROR* KGQ disable failed Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: [drm:amdgpu_ring_test_helper [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring kiq_2.1.0 test failed (-110) Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_hw_fini [amdgpu]] *ERROR* KCQ disable failed Feb 04 16:47:40 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_cp_gfx_enable.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to halt cp gfxHappy to help! Tough you are right, this is a rather generic error that doesn’t help much just confirms that the GPU is the issue.
At this point it could be a driver issue since there are similar open bug reports. A hardware problem is still possible since you previously said that it’s unstable on windows too, and power related issues can also lead to this error message.
EDIT: Tentative solution: CoreCtrl
CoreCtrl allowed me to underclock my Radeon 5600XT GPU (currently set values to GPU 800MHz and memory set to 500MHz). I say “tentative” because this problem has been persistent for years, but I’ve been running Cyberpunk for 1 hour at 60FPS on High settings (and mostly 60FPS on Ultra, but I had some FPS drops). Even if this solution isn’t 100% perfect, I think some combination of changing the GPU values is probably going to make my rig much more functional.
I found CoreCtrl based on a Reddit thread last night but didn’t have time to test it until this evening after work. Seems to have made a world of a difference.
Yeah I’ve tried just about every feasible kernel parameter for
amdgpumodule, updated my kernel, to 6.2 on Linux Mint, and I’ve tried several different BIOS settings. My system runs everything reasonably. Even Cyberpunk 2077 is generally at 60FPS. But after about 5minutes of gaming on Cyberpunk 2077, it crashes. Other games last longer, which is why I use Cyberpunk 2077 to stress test my system.These are my system specs:
I don’t really see where I might be going wrong here. I bought this all ~4 years ago and I’ve always had these intermittent crashes. It’s admittedly worse on Linux, but it still occurred on Windows.
Anyways, I spent about 5 hours last night reading bug forums, testing various amdgpu mod parameters, settings in my BIOS, and even re-configuring my fans to provide (potentially) more optimal cooling. None of this really made a difference. I run two 1080p monitors (not exactly breaking the bank here). I had a lot of hope regarding one forum about
ring gfx_1.0.0 errorsrelated to how AMD reads the GPU in Linux. My graphics card is detected as:Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 [Radeon RX 5600 OEM/5600 XT / 5700/5700 XT]and apparently some machines used to accidentally use the total allocated memory for 5700XT instead of the 5600XT. This resulted in some form of corrupt memory allocation. That sort of behavior would make sense for my system since it runs well, but just fails suddenly.Other errors I’ve seen are:
Feb 04 20:17:01 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=116669, emitted seq=116671 Feb 04 20:17:01 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 3668 thread redDispatcher12 pid 3684 ... Feb 04 20:26:16 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=34068, emitted seq=34071 Feb 04 20:26:16 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 4208 thread redDispatcher13 pid 4232 Feb 04 20:26:17 computer kernel: [drm:do_aquire_global_lock.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:77:crtc-0] hw_done or flip_done timed out ... Feb 04 21:00:43 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring comp_1.3.0 timeout, signaled seq=3085, emitted seq=3086 Feb 04 21:00:43 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 3771 thread redDispatcher8 pid 3783 ... Feb 04 22:28:50 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_device_ip_early_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* early_init of IP block failed -19 Feb 04 22:28:50 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_device_ip_early_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* early_init of IP block failed -19 Feb 04 22:36:57 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=171774, emitted seq=171776 Feb 04 22:36:57 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 4122 thread redDispatcher5 pid 4131 ... Feb 04 22:45:46 computer kernel: [drm:do_aquire_global_lock.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:77:crtc-0] hw_done or flip_done timed out Feb 04 22:45:56 computer kernel: [drm:do_aquire_global_lock.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:80:crtc-1] hw_done or flip_done timed out Feb 04 22:46:19 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring comp_1.1.0 timeout, signaled seq=123, emitted seq=124 Feb 04 22:46:19 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 4187 thread redDispatcher8 pid 4202 ... Feb 04 23:49:45 computer kernel: [drm:gfx_v10_0_priv_reg_irq [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Illegal register access in command stream Feb 04 23:49:45 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=435155, emitted seq=435157 Feb 04 23:49:45 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 3668 thread redDispatcher12 pid 3690 ... Feb 04 23:58:58 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=66268, emitted seq=66270 Feb 04 23:58:58 computer kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process GameThread pid 4180 thread redDispatcher11 pid 4196 Feb 04 23:58:58 computer kernel: [drm:do_aquire_global_lock.isra.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:77:crtc-0] hw_done or flip_done timed out^ These are all errors which occurred from various tests of
amdgpumodule settings and/or BIOS settings. The common thread is some form ofring XXXX timeout.These two threads seemed like my best chance, but their proposed solutions didn’t help:
Thank you! This is super helpful.