Yeah when people try and pretend like Trump can't speak to a crowd or isn't charismatic I feel like I'm being gaslighted, it's like they really don't want admit he can be good at it for some reason. Being dumb af or evil is a separate thing than charisma, and if anything they're infamously associated traits. He's totally phoning it in a lot of the times now sure, but he can still turn it on when needed.
Trump and Biden are both historically disliked party leaders, so pretending people have unanimous respect for every aspect of one or the other is really strange to me. I remember in 2016 people trying to convince themselves Hillary was cool and could give some "fierce" comebacks to Trump if only given the chance, and I was just fuck stop doing this to yourselves this is sad. If Hillary wins it will not be because she's a good speaker… I still lose it at her robot voice being like, "I first came to awareness of you, through the Cardi B WAP!"
Yeah when people try and pretend like Trump can't speak to a crowd or isn't charismatic I feel like I'm being gaslighted, it's like they really don't want admit he can be good at it for some reason. Being dumb af or evil is a separate thing than charisma, and if anything they're infamously associated traits. He's totally phoning it in a lot of the times now sure, but he can still turn it on when needed.
Trump and Biden are both historically disliked party leaders, so pretending people have unanimous respect for every aspect of one or the other is really strange to me. I remember in 2016 people trying to convince themselves Hillary was cool and could give some "fierce" comebacks to Trump if only given the chance, and I was just fuck stop doing this to yourselves this is sad. If Hillary wins it will not be because she's a good speaker… I still lose it at her robot voice being like, "I first came to awareness of you, through the Cardi B WAP!"