“Of course they did! They may have been the boxes etc. that were openly and plainly brought from the White House, as is my right under the Presidential Records Act,” Trump posted on social media.

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    1 year ago

    I'm not getting into semantics, I'm talking about the original post I replied to, namely

    he has a clear duty to protect their secrecy

    Which is talking about a duty in derived sense, not a codified duty.

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      1 year ago

      He does, nothing you've offered implies or states otherwise.

      No, it has to do with a law or rather a series of them an oath to office and an oath to maintain national secrets.

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          18 usc 1924 Is a law that created a duty, a legal duty.

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          Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

          You say you don't want to play semantics but that's your entire argument.

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            1 year ago

            You actually don't understand my argument. What you're talking about now is WHY I think trump broke the law. It has nothing to do with oaths of office. Oaths of office do NOT create a legal duty. That code, as well as the administrative law around

            without authority

            from that code is what creates a legal duty.

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              I understand your argument, don't be patronizing.

              No I don't care what you think about Trump or if he broke the law.

              It does, you swear to follow the law they make you take it specifically so they can increase penalties, it quite literally increases legal responsibility.