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  • aidan@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    To prevent the reproduction of those who rely on murder. If a person had a genetic disorder where they needed a human heart transplant every year to live do you think they should get it? And even if they do, should they reproduce?

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      1 year ago

      I didn't realize transplants only came from killing people, your totally applicable and thoughtful analogy has me rethinking my life choices now.

      Here's a thought experiment for you: if you were on an island, with only the vegan section of a grocery store to eat for survival, would you eat the vegan food?

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        1 year ago

        I didn't realize transplants only came from killing people,

        Can you explain your point a little more?

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            1 year ago

            When did I say all transplants require killing someone? I said that a heart transplant required someone with a working heart to die. Just as a lion eating meat requires another animal to die.

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              1 year ago

              Since lions aren't moral agents (look this up if you're unfamiliar with the term, it's not only a vegan term) they don't commit murder when they kill for food. Also, someone dying and donating an organ also isn't murder.

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                1 year ago

                I didn't say they committed murder. I said they rely on the death of others. Why should a species that must lead to the suffering of my others continue to persist if you can end it without harming the animal?

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                  1 year ago

                  Predators in the wild serve a purpose. Getting rid of all the predators would lead to even more suffering as the prey population would grow and lead to destruction of the environment/ecology, and then mass extinction of plant and animal life.

                  Vegans are still aware of the circle of life and nature's cycles, we just point out that supermarkets and factory farming have nothing to do with either of those.