• OniiFam@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    "American funded war machine that was created and defended for decades without US funding it"

    "Instead demand ceasefire and for this to repeat again and again and this time for sure Hamas won't take your gas and food to provoke massive bombings again I swear."

    Tell me, why is it that Israel is having to secure these humanitarian/refugee corridors for Palestinians with tanks? Who are they defending these people from exactly? Why is it that despite Palestine always being out of food and water they somehow always have materials for rockets to attack indiscriminately? And not to mention that Palestine gets nearly the exact same aid percapita dollar wise than Israel does from the US. It's ridiculous. Surely anyone could see that supporting a terrorist group that is greatly provoking a large beast besides you is stupid. I dont believe Palestinians are some dumb people that can't see the writing on the wall.

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      Ask for a UN peacekeeping force.

      It's not a hard solution, go in with surgical precision instead.

      FFS, at this point it is obvious they don't give a shit about the hostages, find a tunnel and start pumping a stoichiometric ratio of something and light a match.

      That has to be better than killing all the civilians they are bombing, starving, and all the other ways their not allowing aid in.

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      I can't with the Obama pfp and the rationalizing collective punishment and indiscriminate slaughter, it's just too perfect.

      I literally don't care what you have to say dronie

      • OniiFam@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Mmhmm. Notice how you didn't answer who the IDF has to protect Gazan refugees from on their way out of Gaza.

        And indiscriminate? Given a terrorist straps babies onto their bodies and begins attacking people. Is it morally wrong to stop the terrorist with force or will anything to stop him from massacring people is a war crime? I just found out a secret hack. Clearly us soldiers should just strap babies on themselves to invade all other counties. Instant justification to conquer anything. Thanks mate.

        For indiscriminate slaughter it sure doesn't match the description of it btw. Just look at ww2. That was indiscriminate.

        As for your claim of me justifying collective punishment I'm not. Simply is the act of shooting the terrorist that chose to strap babies on his body. That isn't collective punishment. That is the unfortunate reality of enemies that use human shields.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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          Given a terrorist straps babies onto their bodies and begins attacking people. Is it morally wrong to stop the terrorist with force or will anything to stop him from massacring people is a war crime?

          officer, you need to get better material you're literally paraphrasing a comic villain for some dumbass thought experiment instead of actual reality. -that reality being that the european settler state holds all the cards and you're victim blaming the people resisting.

          you would literally defend anything though because you're either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

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            I'll make it easy for you. Hamas is the government of the people and they use human shields. If you use a human shield the fault does not fall on the one stopping the terrorist. It falls on the terrorist. What backwards logic. You didn't even refute it btw. That "dumbass thought experiment." It isnt as if Jews are by far the most genocided group in history and were genocided from the Arab world. It isnt as if a 2 state solution was offered for peace in the 80s and soundly rejected by Palestinian terrorist. I will never be okay with terror campaigns against civilians from either side. If you live in the US let me take your stuff btw. Possibly assault you and your loved ones too. I have more right to my ancestors lands and its fruits than you.

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              you would literally defend anything though because you’re either getting paid to push this shit ignorantly or are someone who belongs at the bottom of a pit.

              I have more right to my ancestors lands and its fruits than you.

              I agree death to the terrorist american state

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                What a nuanced take. Very unique. Very real. Totally not a talking points machine that has never had an original thought.

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                  Totally not a talking points machine that has never had an original thought.

                  Judging from the shit you're pumping out this is also projection.

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                    I mean you are the one defending terrorist. Those terrorist had no option than to jeopardize their ceasefire that they never respected nor than to explicitly say they dont give a fuck about Palestinian lives and that they are the UN's problem. But w/e

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                  I'm agreeing with you america should be dismantled and existing property turned over for redistribution

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            Here’s a fun “tickle your brain” moment. How many Israelis are descendants of ethnically cleansed Jews from other middle eastern states? The other half of the catastrophe that Hamas supporters really don’t want to talk about.

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              Yes, europe making a colony of the people it ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work on an entirely different set of people is really gross, glad we agree.

              Israel could stop being an ethnostate, instead of disenfranchising non-jews and sterilizing non-white jews.

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                Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab? Again: Europe didn’t ethnically cleanse the Middle East. That’d be the belligerents of ‘48 who went from sizable Jewish populations to populations you can count on a hand. You know, a good ol’ fashioned ethnic cleansing.

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                  Isn’t just about 20% of the Israeli population Arab?

                  do they get to vote the same as Jews?

                  Europeans are just projecting their guilt and instrumentalizing the very people they ethnically cleansed to do their dirty work. It's sick.