A simple cup of filter coffee is easy enough to make at home with cheap equipment, sure, but espresso/milk drinks are a different story, and some people prefer milk drinks to filter coffee. A decent home espresso machine that can also steam milk is gonna run you around $150 at the low end. Some people don't have that much laying around at once, but can afford the $3 cappuccino a couple times a week.
Thats just poor personal finance then. Paying 3$ a couple times a week, so let's say 4 times, runs you up at 12$ a week. So within 13 weeks you'd have the money to buy a machine.
Exactly, thank you. It takes so long just to break even with even the cheapest home espresso equipment, plus you then have to learn to use and maintain said equipment - for some people, the convenience of having a barista fix you a better cup of coffee than you could make yourself at home is worth the $3.
A venti drink is like 20oz, is probably at least 3 shots of espresso, and is not comparable to the drinks I'm talking about.
You can get a short cappuccino (8oz) from Starbucks for around $3. This is comparable to most cafe prices for a reasonably sized, single-shot milk drink.
Depends on whether you consider a Flair a "machine" I guess…
But yeah, I would agree you're probably better off with a moka pot than most $150 or less espresso machines. For $150 budget to make strong coffee with milk type drinks, I'd recommend most folks get a moka pot and milk frother.
I use a moka pot at home with milk and sugar. It's like half way to espresso for much cheaper. When I'm feeling fancy I have a cheap milk frother too. It isn't as good as a real espresso drink, but I get those occasionally as a treat.
A simple cup of filter coffee is easy enough to make at home with cheap equipment, sure, but espresso/milk drinks are a different story, and some people prefer milk drinks to filter coffee. A decent home espresso machine that can also steam milk is gonna run you around $150 at the low end. Some people don't have that much laying around at once, but can afford the $3 cappuccino a couple times a week.
Thats just poor personal finance then. Paying 3$ a couple times a week, so let's say 4 times, runs you up at 12$ a week. So within 13 weeks you'd have the money to buy a machine.
I think we might have different definitions of that word. So it really should be 26 weeks, which we can clarify is 6 months.
So 6 months of saving for a treat a couple times a week? That doesn't sound worth it to most people
Exactly, thank you. It takes so long just to break even with even the cheapest home espresso equipment, plus you then have to learn to use and maintain said equipment - for some people, the convenience of having a barista fix you a better cup of coffee than you could make yourself at home is worth the $3.
An aeropress is 40$, so it's even cheaper. 4 weeks or so then based on that math!
(Actually, a venti cappuccino at Starbucks cost almost $6.)
A venti drink is like 20oz, is probably at least 3 shots of espresso, and is not comparable to the drinks I'm talking about.
You can get a short cappuccino (8oz) from Starbucks for around $3. This is comparable to most cafe prices for a reasonably sized, single-shot milk drink.
The crazy thing is that, at least at Starbucks, a Venti hot drink is 2 shots, just like the grande. Paying extra for just more milk and sugar!
If it costs $150 it isn't an espresso machine. I hope you missed a zero because the other point is pretty bad too in that context.
Care to elaborate
I have a 70€ espresso machine. It makes decent espresso, cheaper than paying 1€ at the bar.
Depends on whether you consider a Flair a "machine" I guess… But yeah, I would agree you're probably better off with a moka pot than most $150 or less espresso machines. For $150 budget to make strong coffee with milk type drinks, I'd recommend most folks get a moka pot and milk frother.
I use a moka pot at home with milk and sugar. It's like half way to espresso for much cheaper. When I'm feeling fancy I have a cheap milk frother too. It isn't as good as a real espresso drink, but I get those occasionally as a treat.