• HWK_290@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Am I 40x the danger to society?

    Did you read the article? Yes!

    One 2013 Boston University-led study, for instance, found that for each percentage point increase in gun ownership at the household level, the state firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.

    I must ask, do you need 40 guns? Presumably you can defend yourself and /or engage in recreational hunting with just 1 or 2.

    Researchers have found a clear link between gun ownership in the US and gun violence

    Curbing gun ownership, particularly of assault weapons, is the only solution

    There's no middle ground here. There is nothing special about America other than the absurd amount of guns here. More guns, more deaths. Get rid of them. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Better your hurt feelings than 18 dead Americans

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      1 year ago

      18 dead Americans

      … this time. The only thing “special” about this event was a few more dead than last time. There were 130 “mass shootings” in the first 3 months of this year alone. 48,830 gun deaths in 2021, and rising every year.

      I know you weren’t saying this, but I think it’s important to state there’s a LOT more than 18 lives at stake here. I know these numbers won’t make any difference, but what people like this are really saying is that their “rights” are more important than the lives of all those people, and the many more to come.

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      do you need 40 guns?

      LOL, no, of course not. But this question of "need" always hits me strange. I'm basically at my limit. 40 is all I'm capable of gunsmithing, learning, fucking around, whatever. Hell, 6 or 8 are still in pieces while I figure them out.

      And what exactly are you imagining here? 8 or 9 are shotguns, and of those, most are single shot. 4 or 5 are in pieces (working on it!), most of the remainder are .22LR or .22WMR.

      you can defend yourself and /or engage in recreational hunting

      That's not what the majority are for. And it's none of your business what they are for. But if you must know, I like buying cheapo guns and refurbishing them, seeing what I can do. Gunsmithing tests the limits of my mechanical ability.

      And yes, for self-defense, 6 or 8 will so. "That's nuts!!!"

      • Pump 12-gauge for home defense. Best choice, IMHO, but YMMV.
      • Colt Government Model 1911 .45, sits on my desk, or in the drawer.
      • Rock Island Armory .45, nightstand.
      • Ruger LCP Max .380 for conceal carry, which I usually don't.
      • M&P Shield .380 for conceal carry, if I'm wearing bigger clothes.
      • 9mm Ruger, again, if it fits my clothing.
      • North American Arms .22 magnum. Hilariously tiny, fits in any pocket. Better than nothing I guess?

      If you think on it, it's kinda weird having to defend my hobbies and purchases. "What do you need 40 Steam games for?! You can only play one at a time!"

      Curbing gun ownership, particularly of assault weapons, is the only solution

      Now we come to the meat: How do you intend to make this happen? The 2A is real and the courts have now, and historically, interpreted it to mean the right of induvial ownership. Those two items are facts, not open to argument. I'm am open to discuss, but all I see are useless, ignorant laws that don't curb violence, and worse, cost political capital for electing Democrats.

      (LOL, sorry for the rant, but you seem open to discussion. Maybe we can find common ground, get ideas that work.)

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        What do you think of encouraging the pump action for hon defense? It can be most effective, and you can even encourage less lethal rounds that will take down a home invader. And it seemed like the most difficult to commit mass-murder.

        Similarly, bolt action if you’re a hunter. Seems like the best tool for the job, and is more difficult to commit mass murder.

        I’m personally, I don’t see how conceal carry should ever be a thing, so we’ll have to be on different sides of that. It’s just asking for innocent victims