I don’t understand how you think you can argue this point, when the conversation is literally
- why is it bad that X country is doing better
- because USA is doing worse
And so the title assumes that the reader is from the US and would surely agree that this development is bad.
But you know this. You are arguing in bad faith.
“Washington” seems quite convinced of an imminent WWIII, and I’m guessing they intend to spend a lot of time in Asia.
It was posted to this international community. Regardless of the original intended audience, in this place the discussions should not assume nationality.
This sounds very interesting. I wouldn’t mind if you expanded on it.
Problem for the USA
Our jackdaw regular will tear up things around it and throw them around when it gets frustrated (such as when it wants a treat without having to put in any effort).
It could simply be bold and really frustrated.
Well I upvoted the post so that people will see the comments!
You managed to get your money back?! How?
I think that’s an american thing. Besides, that money is long gone since I made the purchase several years ago.
I asked for a refund when they kept delaying shipment of my Librem 5. I was simply denied and that was it. They told me I could still choose to receive the phone, but I don’t want it since it’s a bad, practically useless product now.
I reported them in my country for it.
I’ve got an NVIDIA card, yeah. I’m guessing it’s a better experience with AMD cards.
It’s a bit disheartening that VR is still not a good experience on Linux. I was wrestling with my Vive several years ago now, but I just got sick of dealing with it (literally and figuratively) due to the jitter, randomly breaking features (even mid-session), crashes, and other random things. It was a coin toss every time whether it was going to even launch at all.
It just wasn’t worth it, so it has been collecting dust now for a few years. Was hoping that one day I’d be able to just plug it in and have an ok time.
I don’t remember encountering the particular bug they’re describing. I was hoping it was about the behaviour of drag-and-dropping something into the browser, such as with those “drop a file here to upload”. I am often simply unable to make that work because instead of the thing being dropped into the webpage’s element, it opens the file in the browser instead, which is not really something I ever want to do.
Same problem, 1070, NixOS Plasma
While it’s possible that this is the case, we don’t actually know that because the people with the right skills aren’t spending a lot of time and resources on experimenting with new ideas and concepts unless there’s profit to be made from it.
Chances of coming up with an idea for a new kind of OS that will bring great return on investment in terms of profit and market share are very low, so entrepreneurs are spending their time thinking about more lucrative ventures.
If we lived in a post-scarcity Communist society where everyone is free to do what they feel is important and fulfilling to them, we’d be more likely to see new and novel ways of interfacing with computers (and technology in general).
But we don’t.
Edit: Also, operating systems are a lot of work.
I finally got around to restarting my system after adding hardware.nvidia.modesetting.enable = true; to my NixOS config and it works perfectly! Thank you for the suggestion. I likely wouldn’t have figured that out on my own any time soon.
Thanks for the suggestion. sudo cat /sys/module/nvidia_drm/parameters/modeset indeed prints N, so I’ll try adding that to my system config.
I think the Xorg vs Wayland situation is not too dissimilar to that of Windows vs Linux. Lots of people are waiting for all of their games/software work (just as well or better) on Linux before switching. I believe that in most cases, switching to Linux requires that a person goes out of their way to either find alternatives to the software they use or altogether change the way they use their computer. It’s a hard sell for people who only use their computer to get their work done, and that’s why it is almost exclusively developers, tech-curious, idealists, government workers, and grandparents who switch to Linux (thanks to a family member who falls into any subset of the former categories). It may require another generation (of people) for X11 to be fully deprecated, because even amongst Linux users there are those who are not interested in changing their established workflow.
I do think it’s unreasonable to expect everything to work the same when a major component is being replaced. Some applications that are built with X11 in mind will never be ported/adapted to work on Wayland. It’s likely that for some things, no alternatives are ever going to exist.
Good news is that we humans are complex adaptive systems! Technology is always changing - that’s just the way of it. Sometimes that will lead to perceived loss of functionality, reduction in quality, or impeded workflow in the name of security, resource efficiency, moral/political reasons, or other considerations. Hopefully we can learn to accept such change, because that’ll be a virtue in times to come.
(This isn’t to say that it’s acceptable for userspace to be suddenly broken because contributors thought of a more elegant way to write underlying software. Luckily, X11 isn’t being deprecated anytime soon for just this reason.)
Ok I’m done rambling.
As soon as it works. A recent update included Plasma 6.0.2 (on NixOS unstable/24.05) which apparently defaults to wayland, but it just exits to login right away. I’m not in a mood to tinker, so for now I plan to simply wait for things to Just Work. When I select “wayland” and things work and look the same (or better) is when I’m happy to rid myself of the horror that is X11, because as horrible as X11 is, it simply isn’t giving me trouble these days - my system is stable and I like keeping it that way.
Edit: perhaps important to mention that I’m using a GTX 1070.
Edit 2: I realise that I’m sort of contradicting myself with how I worded the above. I don’t mean to imply that I’m not willing to sacrifice anything to embrace Wayland; just that as it stands I don’t think the benefits of Wayland outweighs my ability to use this computer the way I need to.
I am summarising this thread. This, from what you quoted:
is precisely what I was referring to with
…and then you proceeded to convey the same sentiment in the discussion:
The strawman I am talking to does not realise that they are being parochial and continues to argue instead of correcting their behaviour.