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- politics@lemmy.world
The cries that the 2020 election was lost or stolen due to voter fraud continue with no sign of stopping. But If voter fraud had impacted the 2020 election, it would already have been proven.
Can a steady diet of lies and innuendo overcome the truth?
In November 2020, former President Donald Trump asserted that voter fraud had altered the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. The day after the election, his campaign hired an expert in voter data to attempt to prove Trump’s allegations and put him back in the White House.
I am the expert who was hired by the Trump campaign.
The findings of my company’s in-depth analysis are detailed in the depositions taken by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol. The transcripts show that the campaign found no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of any election. That message was communicated directly to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.
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And yet, the cries that the election was lost or stolen due to voter fraud continue with no sign of stopping. Whether a stump speech, outrageous lawsuits like the so-called Kraken cases filed by Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani’s lies or the ongoing misguided efforts of people determined to prove the election was stolen, the constant drumbeat hardens people’s hearts and minds to the truth about the 2020 election.
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Unfortunately, the people who need to hear this message will never read this.
Those fucktards are a total loss.
Those fucktards are a large percentage of the voting population, so we can never give up on them.
You’ll never reach them. They’re gone.
They aren’t gone. It takes work, but they can be saved.
The broad cast explicitly states The only way is prevention in the same breath they say that it can be done with a lot of work.
No, you may get some people to question it, but as long as they have familiar ties to the rest of the in group, any ground you gain will erode away the second you take a second to inhale.
Especially when i am out numbered by my extended family. They are a lost cause.
Hey. Those people would be very upset with you if they could read.
What people are seeing is deep indoctrination at work. This is exactly how it happens in religious fundamentalist cults. You repeat the lie often enough, and it becomes the truth. On top of that, the people within the circle begin to distrust the outside world, and so come to the leaders for “truth.” The leaders are the cornerstones upon which their world is built.
And to question the “truth” means to question the leaders and to potentially lose your community. This is why for apostates, community is often the last hurdle to overcome before fully leaving.
Is deep indoctrination a euphemism for cult? Because it seems like a cult.
Indoctrination is the method. The cult is the result.
I like the BITE model of cults: an organization that engages in Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotional Control.
So yes, it is an intrinsic part of a cult.
What I see is that conservatives in general are people who love to be lied to. Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump noticed this and is trying to use it to overthrow democracy. Before conservatives said Obama was a Muslim they said Eisenhower was a Communist. Before they said horse medicine cures Covid they said Laetrile cures cancer.
They love conspiracies.
Religious people have also been convinced that there is a war between good and evil, so they need to find/create a villian.
Didn’t the exact same thing happen with the WMDs in Irak fiasco that ended up killing hundreds of thousands of people and wasting an absolute insane amount of resources for basically nothing?
The true shocker is the beginning of the headline. “Trump paid me”…
It didn’t actually say what Trump paid him.
Five dollars and a half eaten bag of Cheetos
Gotta be a pro athlete for him to spring for the McD’s
True story.
Trust me bro
The people who insist the election was stolen either a) don’t actually know how elections work or b) are intentionally lying.
The problem is, when you try to show them how elections work, they don’t believe you.
Democrats stole the election by voting for Biden in greater numbers the Trump voters.
that’s their latest conspiracy theory with taylor swift, that she is committing electoral fraud by encouraging people to vote who otherwise wouldn’t. all their fear mongering about “ballot harvesting” is literally just making sure eligible voters get ballots and that those ballots get turned in on time. that was the issue with mail in ballots, too. they couldn’t find a single vote that was counted and shouldn’t have been, but when people vote republicans lose, so they’re trying to eliminate elections under the guise of “election integrity concerns”.
If you watch Taylor Swift’s music videos, concert visuals and movies you’ll see evidence that she actually helped to fake the moon landing.
How dare they!
I f’n knew it!
b) are intentionally lying.
Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
Can a steady diet of lies and innuendo overcome the truth?
History says a most definitive yes, it’s not even a good question. Which is why it’s so important to fight back while we still can.
God who looks like man with beard who lives in the sky has entered the chat
And his son, the blue-eyed white man from the Middle East.
I am the expert who was hired by the Trump campaign.
Did they actually get paid?
Socks how many people in this country are go for tyranny. Fear us our kryotonite and trumps sustainence.
Trump keeps ruining US politics. Until his movement dies, the progressive movement is on hold. Enough moderates will prop up candidates like Clinton and Biden. The progressives can vote 3rd party, but at the risk of seeing the Supreme Court fucked for decades more and the executive branch becoming uncontrollable.
I’m a moderate liberal myself but I think it’s wild to assume America doesn’t need a bit more socialism. I don’t see how anyone in the lower middle and lower class can effectively raise children.
Honestly that’s probably the best selling point to progressives to vote for Biden. Killing the MAGA movement for good will allow them to unpause their own movement
His movement first died after the civil war when the know nothings pretended to forget about antebellum politics. They’re only relevant as a function of their corrupt political leadership and there are fascist (Roman) Republican active measures out there whose only job is to transfer outrage from specific members of the Republican party to Small-D democratic systems and players writ large.
Trump had no bigger lickspittle than Mike Pence. There was no lie too big for Pence to cosign. Even Doormat Mike couldn’t stomach the election lies.
There was no lie too big for Pence to cosign.
eh, there was the one…
If it wasn’t putting actual lives in danger, the epic of Pence trying to thread the needle and neither call out Trump’s treason nor break the law himself is pretty hilarious. I mean, going to Dan Quayle when you need a wise man? Mel Brooks wouldn’t have come up with that one.
