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  • @marmo7ade@lemmy.world
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    5711 months ago

    The EPA can ban vinyl chloride and it will solve nothing. Other toxic chemicals will still be required for certain industries and other toxic chemicals will still be transported by train.

    Fix railroad safety so trains stop crashing. Fix the emergency response so that when accidents happen, people are evacuated to safety and paid for their increased cost of living due to destruction of their community.

    But those things cost money. Vilifying a chemical is free.

    • Chetzemoka
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      711 months ago

      Thank you for talking some damn sense. When everybody got all up in arms about the specific PFOA that was found in the open air water treatment facility in Little Hocking, Ohio from the DuPont Washington Works Teflon factory, the only thing that got changed was DuPont paid to convert the water treatment facility to a closed air one and they replaced C8 with C6, which is arguably a worse chemical about which less is known.

      We can’t regulate out these kinds of chemicals one by one. It’s the same problem they were having trying to regulate synthetic cathinones (“bath salts”) - you ban one specific chemical and people just change the formula slightly to come up with a new technically legal version again.

      We need to regulate the manufactured products that require these chemicals as part of the process.

    • @RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      Not the general public’s money, but the private owners when the goverment comes in and says,” sorry guys but it’s nationalization time,and it’s for the public good that they own these and make sure they’re regulated and federally maintained as well as regulated.( much like broadband an internet access should be but that’s also another quagmire.) Now this would give workers a lot more say and a metric Shit ton of transparency that we just don’t have when it’s a private entity. Now I’m not saying the government gets it right all the time (looking at you Fannie Mae, fredie Mac) but it is a FAR better option than trusting these American oligarchs to do right by the general population without being bullied by public opinion ( which a lot of news agencies have been “regulatory captured” so they do the work for these corporations in the court of public opinion Rudolph Murdock empire is a great example of this), we tired the carrot with this fucks for too long it’s time for the stick the size of Montana to club these owners with and either break them up like we need to do to Amazon and google or better yet nationalize them so they can’t gather and congeal together again like the pond scum they are. Please vote no matter how dire or how you may think your vote doesn’t count it DOES matter just look at Lauren Boebert almost lost by less than 551 votes (I think). I get it the gerrymandering, the bad hours for voting to keep certain working voters from participating, the long lines and the misinformation are all designed to make you give up and think your voice doesn’t count. Think of it this way they would not be going through all this trouble if the reblicans weren’t scared of Laing, they’re terrified of you and me coming together and making there they finally “find out” after they fucked around. We can do this together and still turn this boat around and get going in the right direction. We can’t just count on gen z to fix this (I say as a millennial) we got to back them up and dust ourselves off and help elevate each other to getting this done. /end rant

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    611 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration says it could soon launch a formal evaluation of risks posed by vinyl chloride, the cancer-causing chemical that burned in a towering plume of toxic black smoke following the fiery train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio.

    If selected, EPA would study vinyl chloride to determine whether it poses an “unreasonable risk to human health or the environment,’’ a process that would take at least three years.

    The chemical is found in plastic PVC pipes, as well as vinyl siding, packaging and a range of consumer goods, including furniture, car parts, shower curtains and toys used by children and pets.

    “Regrettably, Beyond Plastics has chosen to use the tragic events of East Palestine to advance deceptive and disproven claims about our industry that only serve to mislead the public,’’ Monroe added.

    Months later, residents are concerned about lingering impacts on health, even though state and federal officials say tests show the town’s air and water are safe.

    Conard faulted what she called “an insatiable demand” by Americans for plastic products that has “driven the need for increased transport of these hazardous substances, placing communities like mine at risk every single day.’’


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