Polls like this aren't really useful. We're 12 months out from the election. In political terms, it might as well be a decade. Now, if this is the case in August or September of next year, then I'll worry.
and just think of all that can, or wont happen between now and then. we dont even know if this guy will be allowed on state ballots.
Two big things stand out in this poll to me:
Trump and Biden are effectively tied among voters under 30 — a large shift from 2020.
A generic, unnamed Democrat fares even better with an 8-point lead over Trump — a 13-point swing from Biden.
I think those points are probably related, with younger voters not necessarily shifting to the right, but just being fed up with Biden.
It's wild to me that he's running again and that the party isn't challenging him.
Dude fought in the last Civil War and his ego is going to usher in the next one.
He's 80 years old right now. I've had relatives that were 80. There's not a single 80 year old I've ever met where I thought "putting this person in charge of extremely important things is a great idea."
His VP pick was terrible in light of that age. Law enforcement through and through and someone who pretty much disappeared over the past 4 years. During the primaries in 2020 exactly zero times did I think after a debate "I can't wait for a Harris presidency."
Have a goddamn primary. Let the strongest candidate run against fascism.
Heck, Carter's still alive and only served one term. If Biden's similar qualifications seem like a good idea, let's have him fight Jimmy for the title.
It's really beyond me that on one side you have literal fucking fascism with religious zealots making the Handmaid's Tale a documentary, trying to end democracy in the US, and nonplused marching alongside clansmen and neo-Nazis.
And then on the other is a political party equivalent of Barney Fife bumbling through staving off the end of the Western world with hijinks and idiocy (for those that don't get the reference, Biden would).
While yes, it's a blessing that the other side is broadly incompetent too, does our side really need to be? WTF.
Running two people that two thirds of the country thinks suck against each other really doesn't seem like democracy at its best.
This point is hugely important. I really wish media in general would try harder to give a full view of the situation instead of narrowing the view to "Trump v Biden" while there's some 3rd nonexistant bastard doing so much better than either of them out there. Like, I understand wanting to focus on the presumptive nominees and all, but a literal nonexistant person leading by at least 8 points on such big names is kind of a deal, man.
Quick, someone should ask President Dukakis how he felt about the polls, putting him 15 points up on George H.W. Bush in the summer of '88.
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I love that the primary complaint is "Biden is too old."
Biden was born in '42.
Trump was born in '46.There's not a lot of daylight there. But I guess they see a 78 year old as electable and 82 as not. Cutoff at 80? If elected, Trump will turn 80 two years in.
What will Trump supporters use as their excuse if he loses in '24 and tries again in '28 at the same age Biden was in '24?
Reagan was born in 1911, so for 1980 he was 69 and 1984 he was 73. 77 when he left office and people felt that was too old.
tries again in '28
Bold of you to think someone who eats McDonald's regularly is going to be around in their mid 80s.
He will literally continue trying until he drops dead. Even then, his fanbase will insist he's not dead, he's just pinin' for the fjords.
